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Post by fiaryn on Apr 5, 2011 20:28:01 GMT -5
'Cuz we're just too fuckin' good at this
The Dead: 3clipse, vanillager, dead by vote Matev, werewolf, killed by another werewolf? Lucedes, hunter, killed by me Coutts, werewolf, killed by Lucedes because he tried to kill me :3 Captainplanet, vanillager, killed by Dunadan
It seems that there's a Black Spiral Dancer (read: evil werewolf) who caused the friendly fire.
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Post by loserforhirex on Apr 5, 2011 20:29:41 GMT -5
'Cuz we're just too fuckin' good at this The Dead: 3clipse, vanillager, dead by vote Matev, werewolf, killed by another werewolf? I...did we do this and I missed it? Lucedes, hunter, killed by me Coutts, werewolf, killed by Lucedes because he tried to kill me :3Captainplanet, vanillager, killed by Dunadan with a half an hour to vote close heffling changed his action. very lucky for you, fangbanger
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Post by fiaryn on Apr 5, 2011 20:30:26 GMT -5
Mystery solved. Heffling you are my best friend.
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Post by isquish on Apr 5, 2011 20:51:17 GMT -5
haha, they must be slightly confused over the whole matter
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Post by heffling on Apr 5, 2011 21:04:51 GMT -5
I was 99% sure that someone was gonna gun for you Fiaryn. I expected it to be Ringo and not the Hunter, but a win's a win.
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Post by fiaryn on Apr 5, 2011 21:13:18 GMT -5
And...Lucedes just gave away in a ghost post that he wasn't working alone. Isn't that against the rules?
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Post by Roman on Apr 5, 2011 22:00:30 GMT -5
"MaxFrost is a normal human being it seems, nothing special about him. The animals react as they would for any other man."
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Post by Roman on Apr 5, 2011 22:04:12 GMT -5
Also, if lucedes IS working with anyone, its going to look mighty suspicious that he died the day after contacting me. I wouldn't mind getting redirected off tonight.
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Post by heffling on Apr 5, 2011 23:31:21 GMT -5
I can busdriver off of Fiaryn or Roman, not both. You guys figure out who you think is the most suspicious and I'll protect that person.
And just FYI, if I get stuck in a position where I have to fake reveal as a hedge mage who can busdriver, well, I think you can figure out who I'll be protecting at that time!
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Post by Roman on Apr 6, 2011 0:59:05 GMT -5
Uhh, don't we have a guard and a busdrive? i'd say guard fiaryn and busdrive off me?
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Post by dunadan on Apr 6, 2011 7:39:36 GMT -5
I suggest Squish guards Fiaryn Heffling Busdrivers Ringo and Roman Fiaryn aims a kill at Roman which gets drivered onto Ringo Roman contacts max frost claiming to be a village aligned seer (not werewolf) and starts a fake network while seering someone else (I suggest teucrian or garroad Ran) I kill Sir Fabulous
Ways it could go wrong: someone roleblocks heffling Romans fake network is broken up by a real seer (might be dead) someone else aside from fiaryn or roman gets vigged someone tries to kill Ringo (unlikely unless the hunters decide to go for him) another busdriver screws with one of our targets one of us is voted out
Disadvantages: Ringo gets a kill off
Advantage: Ringo Dies 2 people 'guarded' fake network started and 'guarded'
Alternative: Squish guards Roman Heffling roleblocks Ringo Fiaryn kills someone Roman contacts max frost claiming to be a village aligned seer (not werewolf) and starts a fake network while seering someone else (I suggest teucrian or garroad Ran) I kill Sir Fabulous
Differences: no guard on our fake network Ringo doesn't get a kill No chance of a random roleblock making us kill roman (I think a random roleblock is unlikely)
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Post by Roman on Apr 6, 2011 8:25:41 GMT -5
I'd be happy to start a fake network if someone can come up with a decent cover story for a human seer.
I have zero source knowledge so yeah.
As for the rest of the plan? lets think about it.
I think first and foremost Fiaryn needs to be guarded. Whoever tried to hit him last night is gonna know he was driven and suspect the worst.
Basically, what it comes down to is, is it worth gambling on heffling not getting roleblocked and ringo not getting vigged (it looks at-least like there's a non-werewolf kill) for the chance to kill him.
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Post by fiaryn on Apr 6, 2011 8:45:59 GMT -5
I don't think hedge mage is really a term that's used. My knowledge of Mage is by far my weakest with regards to the World of Darkness universe, but it's not really like that. Mages are people who can augment reality within certain paradigms. They're fought by the Technocracy, the mage paradigm of technology. In short a paradigm is like a logical argument by which you get the universe to agree with you. The Technocracy has the most commonly accepted by the common man paradigm, and therefore their magic is the easiest to work. Traditional magic is increasingly hard to get the universe to not frown at you for due to the aforementioned issue.
That's the summarized version which I probably butchered to a degree.
As for the plan, I say we gamble on the driver.
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Post by dunadan on Apr 6, 2011 8:49:28 GMT -5
the village vig (mage) isn't likely to kill Ringo at this point.
Lucedes tried to kill Fiaryn last night and might have a partner but if he's guarded then he should be fine.
I don't think it's likely that there is more than 1 or 2 roleblockers out there. they shouldn't have any reason to target heffling and we have no evidence that any of us have been targeted by a roleblock thusfar so they might not even exist.
the only person who may target Ringo is the other suspected hunter vig person who may have reason to suspect that targeting fiaryn again won't work and that one of the two dead werewolves might be a guard leaving ringo unguarded and that hunter decides to eliminate a vig that helps him get the other half of his win condition (kill us) for little gain. In short, its a longshot that it happens because you'd have to be pretty dense or unwise to be the hunter that did that.
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Post by dunadan on Apr 6, 2011 8:52:36 GMT -5
I don't think hedge mage is really a term that's used. My knowledge of Mage is by far my weakest with regards to the World of Darkness universe, but it's not really like that. Mages are people who can augment reality within certain paradigms. They're fought by the Technocracy, the mage paradigm of technology. In short a paradigm is like a logical argument by which you get the universe to agree with you. The Technocracy has the most commonly accepted by the common man paradigm, and therefore their magic is the easiest to work. Traditional magic is increasingly hard to get the universe to not frown at you for due to the aforementioned issue. That's the summarized version which I probably butchered to a degree. As for the plan, I say we gamble on the driver. Can you think up a Mage villager role that seers people in the format of the OP villager PM and/or our PMs? Roman can use that as a reference incase someone decides to try and play 'compare the role PMs without sharing them'
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